Those Darn Christians

September 7, 2010 · 25 comments

Here we go again, Christians vs Muslims. A Florida dumb-ass, Terry Jones needs some exposure so he and his (Christian) church are going to burn the Quran. Even after a warning from General Petraeus that burning the Quran Could endanger American troops, these fine people don’t care. Maybe the collection plate is not enough to sate this hateful Bible thumper.

Sometimes I am not proud to be an American. I love the country, it’s a certain faction of the people I can’t stand, primarily Christians. In fact not all people of this “believe or we will kill you” faith are evil.  Some of my best friends are Christians. And Jews. And Deists. My wife is a devout Christian and a good person, proof that the two creeds can coexist.
Although I consider myself a southerner, I live in a Christian dense populace in the Midwest. Somehow I’ve managed to survive the relentless push and pull for me to be a Christian. I will never be one.

I don’t hate Christians. I just don’t, in spite of the fact that more blood has been spilled in the name of Christ than any other religious prophet I know. If Christ did return to earth he would demolish most of the churches built in his name.

I don’t hate Muslims either. And I am not an Atheist.

If you are a Christian who can think logically, who doesn’t hate people of other faiths, who doesn’t push me to join you or beg money from me and the million other things that give your faith a bad name, this is not directed toward you.

Peace.

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Jonathan Elliot September 7, 2010 at 7:54 am

Hal, this is a brilliant post, and I couldn’t agree more, with every sentiment.

“If Christ did return to earth he would demolish most of the churches built in his name.” Yup. I think you could find a lot of genuine Christians who would agree.

At the risk of being self-serving, I’d like to link to a post of my own about Muslim Americans, that I think conservative USA needs to hear: http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/islam-interfaith-talk-there-is-hope/

Feel free to delete if this is inappropriate.

Jonathan from Spritzophrenia

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 9:40 am

your link is fine Jonathan. Thanks for your feedback.

Randy Murray September 7, 2010 at 7:58 am

Those idiots that plan on burning Qurans are traitors. Period. They’re going to cause the deaths of Americans and US soldiers by their actions. I am personally sickened and ashamed by them and how they make American’s look.
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Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 9:41 am

I can’t add to anything you said – totally agreed. Thanks Randy.

nina September 7, 2010 at 8:35 am

i’m a muslim. and i don’t hate christians. even the ones who burn books. i feel pity for them. we people do stupid things in the name of religions. thank you for sharing this.

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 9:44 am

Good to hear from you Nina. I always say, I believe in God, not religion. I admire your tolerance of fools.

Ash September 7, 2010 at 10:47 am

The title should be ‘Those Darn Protestants’. Everybody thinks that Protestants are representative of Christians. Nobody has ever even heard of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the original church that the Catholics broke away from, and then the Protestants from them. Orthodoxy is everywhere in Russia. And it does exist in America, too, by the way.

It’s this kind of attitude that gives Christianity a bad name, talking about those darn Christians. People can really be ignorant… not only the joker who burned the Quran, but also the author of this blog.

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 11:07 am

The word “Christian” is how Terry Jones refers to his church. “…It is time that all Christians unite… .” http://www.doveworld.org/the-sign
And yes, I understand that the Christian church is divided into sects. Nevertheless, they are all Christians, whether Catholic, Protestant or some other subdivision. Suggest you check facts.

Sarah September 7, 2010 at 5:47 pm

One wonders what the people who plan to burn the Koran hope to achieve, apart from publicity? Let’s face it, burning sheaves of bound paper won’t diminish Islam and more than burning The Bible would diminish Christianity. Rather, this is a pitiful display of ignorance and bigotry.

The founding principles of Christianity are excellent, as are all Abrahamic faiths, but people will use whatever religion they subscribe to in order to justify abhorrent acts. Perhaps excommunicating the bigots might be more amusing for the rest of the thinking world…? ;-)

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Exactly as I feel Sarah. I have nothing against the principles of religion. I wonder how many bigots understand the roots of, as you put it, the Abrahamic faiths? Thanks for you insight.

Mari B September 7, 2010 at 6:37 pm

Hal,
Eric and I share your sentiments completely.

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Thank you Mari. I truly appreciate you commenting.

Karen Black September 7, 2010 at 7:26 pm

Hal, Thanks for so eloquently saying what so many of us feel. Why we kill each other in the name of religion is a question that will never be answered and no matter how much scholars study history the idiots will always yell louder, do stupider things, and get the attention so undeserving. TV remotes have mute buttons, and I am waiting for the day when they invent the “zap the dumb ass” button. (Oh, I guess no one would be left on TV to watch-maybe not such a bad thing).

Hal Brown September 7, 2010 at 7:30 pm

LOL! Thanks Karen. If you find one of those remotes, please let me know.

Kissie September 8, 2010 at 1:14 pm

When I read the title, I immediately laughed!

Hal, it is so sad. But, I hate when people refer to me as a “Christian” for the simple fact they may identify me as one of THOSE. I am a believer and I know that Jesus said we should be known by LOVE. They use that moniker to be bigots, if you ask me. How does that give you a right to put down others and a platform to shout what you are against? Give me a freaking break! Excuse my language, it saddens me. It saddens me because if these people knew the One they claim they belong to, the world would see a dramatic difference. When the Bible speaks of “us” being peculiar, I think they took that word for its English and not Greek meaning. Although I don’t know the Greek, I know very well we’re not to be these hateful bigots we’ve become.

Let’s look at the symptoms these Christians have — I chose symptoms because they are suffering from dis-ease syndromes. Judgmental – Hateful – Uncaring – Ignorant – Unfeeling – This isn’t the kind of fruit Christians should bear. Jesus is the Vine and those types of branches are NOT connected to Him.

I am not saying they are NOT Christians, I said I’m not that kind. We all have our issues and shortcomings and perhaps they are as we call it, “babes” … improbable but possible. So I pray for all of us to get a better understanding of what we claim to be and how we should walk in that lifestyle.

Over the weekend, I saw footage of some young people protesting in California and I wondered why they couldn’t find a place to PRAY and not PROTEST. Prayer changes things … isn’t that what Christians believe? When it says faith without works is dead, I don’t think the work was intended to be that way … you know to love is to work. To understand is to work, to support and not condemn is to work…. Why’d you get me started!
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Hal Brown September 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm

It is sad that “Christians” are lumped together as a single entity, yet it is a truth that can’t be changed. How else to distinguish the MAJOR religions of the world. I don’t need to repeat all I said about no hate for Christians – merely a few of (as you said) THOSE.
I am a history buff, and even as I write this I am recording a history of the Jews and reading a history of the Aztecs. It is hard not to be angry reading history. It is a story of blood, no matter where in the world, usually about religion or power or both.
Thanks for your, as always, insightful comment.

Kissie September 13, 2010 at 10:54 pm

No problem, I’m glad you wrote it.

You are definitely right about the “blood” in history … it’s crazy! But, it’s the way of the world … then and now.
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Kissie September 8, 2010 at 1:14 pm

And another thing, how is burning a book going to solve anything? Seriously?!
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Hal Brown September 8, 2010 at 1:46 pm

It serves to make matters worse. I feel bad for our troops who my suffer from this more than any other aspect.

Kissie September 13, 2010 at 10:57 pm

Hal, what’s really funny about this story, if anything – is the report that he heard from the Imam about not building in downtown Manhattan.
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Jonathan Elliot September 8, 2010 at 6:51 pm

Hi Hal… just wanted to share this to show not everyone is acting hatefully. Another blog I follow writes

In response to the “Burn the Quran Day” Florida pastor, I’ve decided to promote a counter day:

The First International Have a Meal with a Muslim Day

Or coffee.

Initiate dialogues, not bonfires.

And so The First International Have a Meal with a Muslim Day is hereby declared for the following date:

Friday, September 17, 2010.

Full details see
http://santitafarella.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/instead-of-burn-a-quran-day-how-about-an-international-have-a-meal-with-a-muslim-day/

Cheers :)

Jonathan from Spritzophrenia

Hal Brown September 8, 2010 at 7:04 pm

Anything is better than acting from hate. Maybe you should tweet or DIGG this story. I didn’t see any share buttons on that site.

Kissie September 13, 2010 at 10:58 pm

I read that, but I thought it was YOUR site! I subscribe. ;-)
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Walter September 11, 2010 at 6:53 am

I came to believe that religion is not purely about God but of the ignorance of man. Surely, most people are blind of their erroneous ways and uses religion as en escape. :-)

Hal Brown September 11, 2010 at 7:17 am

Another good insight Walter. It is now Sept 11. Let us hope this little man will not go through with what could be a disaster for all concerned.

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